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September 17th, 2009
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#1 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Milledgeville, IL. 61051 USA
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| Packard hood ornament questions
Hello,
It has been a while since I have been to this site.
I have a casting business and I was contacted by my plating shop about a Packard hood orn that he has to replate.
The problem is that it is broken in a few places.
What I need to know is, are there any wings being made for this orn?
If not, I am going to make some up.
Would there be much interest in wings for this, if I did?
What all years was this orn used on?
Thanks in advance for any help on this project.
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Last edited by Coley; September 17th, 2009 at 00:43.
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September 17th, 2009
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| Re: Packard hood ornament questions
Sorry to hear that your "Packard Duck" is "all quacked up". Yeah, we affectionately call it a duck. Technically, it was first described by Packard as a comorant, then later a swan. It was an option starting in the early-mid 1930's, continued almost to end when the company folded in '56. Over the years, it became so popular as a symbol of grace and elegant luxury that you can even find modified interpetations of swan hood ornaments in the JC Whitney catalogue (which explains why I have seen em on big diesel trucks)
Dont waste your money trying to fix a broken one. They ARE available new of excellent quality - I dont want to seem like a "hack" for any particular Packard parts seller, so I wont go putting names in here, but they have been reproduced by several vendors for some forty years now. | |
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September 17th, 2009
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#3 | | Senior Member
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| Re: Packard hood ornament questions
Thanks for the info. Could you email me a name of a good supplier?
My email is synka@aeroinc.net
Thanks
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September 18th, 2009
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#4 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Vietnam & Washougal, washington too
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| Re: Packard hood ornament questions
I like the information too. packards42@yahoo.com
__________________ - 42 Packard Seven passenger Limo
42 Packard seven passenger sedan parts only, maybe an airport limo
42 Packard formal, a basket case, restorable and complete.
40 Packard 160 -127 inch, , some surface little rust restorable
Wanted on rear deck Air Conditioner Vent to complete the 42 limo.
Wanted one factory Air Conditioners
Want 6 or 8 door Airport limo any year, any make pre WWII. | |
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September 18th, 2009
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| Re: Packard hood ornament questions
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Packards
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September 19th, 2009
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#6 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Milledgeville, IL. 61051 USA
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| Re: Packard hood ornament questions
Seems the owner doesn't want to spend big moneyu on a new on at this time.
I took the bird apart today and am making the patterns up for the wings.
He has another one with the maiden holding the wheel, that needs repaired also.
We will see how they come out.
Welding pot-metal that is newer is easy, but the older metal is tough.
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September 21st, 2009
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Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Detroit, MI - the home of Packard
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| Re: Packard hood ornament questions
Quote:
Originally Posted by Coley  Seems the owner doesn't want to spend big money on a new on at this time.
I took the bird apart today and am making the patterns up for the wings.
He has another one with the maiden holding the wheel, that needs repaired also.
We will see how they come out.
Welding pot-metal that is newer is easy, but the older metal is tough. | What, does your shop work for $5 an hour? I have found that a quality product, available "off the shelf" is more ecomonical than pouring money into
a questionable old piece. It's kind of a "ya pay now or you pay later" kind of thing.
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September 21st, 2009
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| Re: Packard hood ornament questions
I believe you can buy just the wings. You don't need to buy the whole bird.
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Antique Automobile (AACA)
"The world hates change, but it is the only thing that has brought progress." – Charles Kettering
"Progress might have been all right once, but it has gone on too long." – Ogden Nash
"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; The unreasonable one persists until the world conforms to his ways. Therefore all progress relies on the unreasonable man." – George Bernard Shaw | |
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September 22nd, 2009
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#9 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Vietnam & Washougal, washington too
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| Re: Packard hood ornament questions
if you casting the donut push lady, what you sell price, also can do a base.
__________________ - 42 Packard Seven passenger Limo
42 Packard seven passenger sedan parts only, maybe an airport limo
42 Packard formal, a basket case, restorable and complete.
40 Packard 160 -127 inch, , some surface little rust restorable
Wanted on rear deck Air Conditioner Vent to complete the 42 limo.
Wanted one factory Air Conditioners
Want 6 or 8 door Airport limo any year, any make pre WWII. | |
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September 22nd, 2009
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Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Hershey
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| Re: Packard hood ornament questions
Don Sommer's price for lady, glass and base is around $350, in stainless steel.
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Antique Automobile (AACA)
"The world hates change, but it is the only thing that has brought progress." – Charles Kettering
"Progress might have been all right once, but it has gone on too long." – Ogden Nash
"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; The unreasonable one persists until the world conforms to his ways. Therefore all progress relies on the unreasonable man." – George Bernard Shaw | |
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September 23rd, 2009
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#11 | | Senior Member
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| Re: Packard hood ornament questions
West
thanks for the update. joe
__________________ - 42 Packard Seven passenger Limo
42 Packard seven passenger sedan parts only, maybe an airport limo
42 Packard formal, a basket case, restorable and complete.
40 Packard 160 -127 inch, , some surface little rust restorable
Wanted on rear deck Air Conditioner Vent to complete the 42 limo.
Wanted one factory Air Conditioners
Want 6 or 8 door Airport limo any year, any make pre WWII. | |
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September 27th, 2009
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#12 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Milledgeville, IL. 61051 USA
Posts: 229
| Re: Packard hood ornament questions
My shop time is $35.00 per hour. I have been casting parts for over 30 years.
I cast up replacement sections for older pot-metal parts that there is no replacement for.
Several restoration shops have been having me make parts for them for some rare cars.
White Post Restorations is one of them.
Recently made up some parts for an Allard, Reo, Chrysler, Studebaker and Chevrolet.
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October 30th, 2009
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#13 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Milledgeville, IL. 61051 USA
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| Re: Packard hood ornament questions
Here is the finished "Duck".
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