[8BALL_olson]

you know guys , i sell alot of stuff on e/yab and havent been burned yet ... watch ... next time i get drilled !!! in soft voice ... " grasshopper , you have much to learn ... " .

[ArizonaAmcGuy]

A friend of mine has a great ebay business and sells alot of cars and parts for clients. He has a posative rating over 1,400. He sold a car through ebay for a close friend of his. The winning buyer paid for the car and the car was delivered with no problem. A week or so later My friend the original seller gets an angry email from a guy In Australia. Turns out he recieved a second chance offer from someone who he thought was the original seller( my friend). Not True!! Cut a long story short the poor guy in Australia made arangements to send him the full amount for the car. About $2,500.00 for the car and another $4,500.00 for shipping the car to Australia. So $7,000.00 was sent through Western Union to this scammer guy down south. Poor Bob (the seller) was freaking out. Neither Bob nor the Australian guy found out who Stole the money! So watch your Butt don't get screwed by jerks like this.

[JDHolmes]

I get about two of these a week. The second chance offer should come through ebay or don't bother with it.

[carmallguy]

I have posted the two cars here again and edited the ads with the information I was asked not to post the relivent information concerning the fraud, and again was informed I was wroung for posting unique case information in the ads and in the forum.

In short all I can post are the links see how these two poeple have posted the ad.

Even though I have proof of guilt I can not say they are guilty

See for your self I know what I posted was true.

http://www.classiccarmall.net/index.php?a=2&b=760 <-- suspect add

http://www.heritageclassics.com/asto...db24/Page.html <-- this is were the car really sold

Pay close attention to the pictures and see what was changed to hide were they came from

http://www.classiccarmall.net/index.php?a=2&b=757 <-- suspect add

Use the seearch engines and you will see they were sold along time ago for alot more money

Please take note of the emails and numbers be very aware

I have done all I can, I want them to stay for all to see and learn

I have contacted the Houston Secret Service, and card companies in this matter that is all I legally can say. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

I know what it is because I got a charge back notice on both ads, I refunded the moneies so I did not have to pay for the charge back. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />

It is what it is

I guess what really makes me real angry is once the credit card company gets the money back from us the investigation is over and the case is closed

No further action is taken, keeping this in mind numerous cars sites are burned on a daily and I mean Daily. Over and Over we take the hit when is law enforcement going to step up to the plate and take action.

There is no incentive for the credit card companies to take action they make money both ways.

Just look at how many palces these cars are posted

Here is yahoo link there are nine sites with this car on it, that is nine more sites that got burned at an average price of about 50 bucks

http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=1965+Mu...-501&dups=1

And before some one says use paypal done that get burned on a regular basis because the paypay accounts are comprimised by unaware paypal users responding to the paypal letter your account has been suspended.

I take credit Cards with all the rules Set to very strict

I require every thing to match Name, cvv2, address, State, Zip

The ones I get are people who got there identity stolen from a dumpster or their mail box from leaving there mail in the box over night or dealing on line with these under designed E-commerce sites with these cheap packages.

I have over 43,000 in to my site in T & M, software and security and dedicated servers.

Only to have a fruadster come to my site with very vaild information, I can not prevent this from happening, all I can do is to continue to call each person placing the ad, if I dont get some one who matches the name and and answers the phone I void the transaction.

The last two had phones in the names of the people.

[ChaplainLar]

I bought an Antique car on E-bay through an auction house. I went up to Michigan to see it before I paid. Looked nice, I paid & had the car shipped home. I received title 5 days later. I went to change iy to my name and found out title# & vin# don't match.
Six weeks later I finally get it in for appt. with State Highway Dept. for them to check it.
Seems that this nice looking car is a product of several vehicles, none of which is from
title I now hold.
My only option (if I want to keep & not try the court thing) is to declare this as 2006 parts car
not the 1928 I thought I bought - so I won't be allowed in Car Shows or Vintage or collector plates
because it will be a 2006.

Moral: Check Title to VIN number on car BEFORE you pay. :-(

[Albert]

On cars that old you may have had the "vin" number being the serial # of the motor , which could have been replaced a feew times over the years. i heard of one person that weht to regester a model A and his number was aready regestered in the same state, someone else had his previous original motor in there car. are the numbers close to that of a motor or body or even a frame # of that year. You may be able to go to a title place and get a proper title that way, or maybe in some states have the local police check the numbers and give you a letter to that fact.. some of the packards i have seen have been regestered with one of the 3 numbers on the car..

[imported_Packard8]

Whenever I get the Western Union or Moneygram Nigerian scam I just say:

?Fine, you wire the money to me via Western Union here, I?ll take out my share and forward the rest to your Shipping Agent?

Funny?.I never hear from them again???.

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[imported_Julian]

That is a very common scam.. I have had 3 different people attempt to pull that on me.. I just tell them cash upon pick up only.. and NOT on a sat or sun so we can veryify the money at the bank..they just go away after that..

[shaun]

How about getting the registeration number of the company and investigate a bit about their existence in the business industry. These can be easily known through custom agents.

[NH4012]

I require that overseas purchasers of items over $1000 pay by Electronic Funds Transfer to my bank and do not release the item for 7 days after receipt of the EFT. It's important to note that even an EFT isn't "REAL" until about 72 hours after receipt because prior to that time, the sender bank can "call it back" if there was an error. After that, it's really really yours! Under $1000 I request either an American Express money order in US dollars or payment by PayPal. So far, I haven't gotten burned. All the inquiries I get about selling and shipping IMMEDIATELY for a variety of reasons have ALL been bogus. If they're in such a hurry, let them buy it somewhere else and NEVER accept a payment in excess of your asking price that involves sending the excess to a 3rd party for ANY reason.