[old car fan]

the starter is out ,and moter ,i can send pics

[toyopet]

Here are a few pictures of my starter and another starter to be use in one of the motor I am building for a customer. The starter with the chrome metal band at the top is the one from my motor. You can see that the only difference I can see is that from the gear to the collar there is a variable of 1/4 inch to close to the flywheel the other starter gear is about 1/4 futher out. This is possibly my problem with the gear been to close to the flywheel. You can also see a picture of the small bracket that need to be use to support the starter at the front.

Thanks
Frenchy

[peecher]

Frenchy, the starter drive on the starter for your engine does not look right? It is not only closer to the flywheel but it doesn't look like it has any guide acme threads for the engaging gear? That starter drive might be the problem?

[toyopet]

Peecher

Under the gear on my starter there is a spiral like the other one which you cannot see. But I was concern about how close it is to the flywheel otherwise the other starter has more spacing than mine has.

Thanks
Frenchy

[peecher]

Did some checking and evidently you have the so-called "improved" original style starter drive used on Fords. I just took a look at another rebuilt starter I have for a friends engine and it too has this new style drive. I haven't tried this starter on his engine yet so I can't report if it works ok. I wonder if the short "throw/travel" of the gear might be causing it to jam? A rebuilt 12 is pretty stiff. Did you try the other starter on your engine?

[toyopet]

Peecher

I did not try the other starter yet but I am planning to buy a new starter for my motor. That is what I tought my problem is the short distance from the gear to the edge of the flywheel causing it to jam. Hope this will help anyone trying to fit a starter like the pictures I have displayed.

Thanks
Frenchy

[Frenchy32]

Peecher is it possible to change only the end of the shaft like the other style without having to change the entire starter I should be able to modify this one what do you think.

Frenchy

[Mssr. Bwatoe]

IT MUST BE, CAUS PEECH HAS BOTH STYLE MOTORS IN FIRST PIC, BOTH WITH MODERN REPLACEMENT OLD STYLE..ON BOTH .. CHK GREEN BOOK, SEE IF ARMATURE IS DIFFERENT, I BET IT IS LONGER
ORIGINAL BENDIX USED RECOIL SPRING AS A "CUSHION" AT THE END OF GEAR TRAVEL..
5EH STYLE HAD MODERN ERA STYLE SPRING TENSION TO RETURN GEAR TO IDLE POSTION..

[peecher]

Frenchy, Yes, you should be able to change the drive unit. The "improved" drive is a replacement for the original Ford. The 5EH starter does have a longer armature/output shaft.

[toyopet]

Thanks I will be going to So Cal store today here in Phoenix and see waht they have on the shelves.

Frenchy