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| Who Do You Make a Case to? I am not a member of the Classic Car Club of America; although I have been twice (I think) before. It was I who wrote the case for consideration of the 1931-1942 Buick 90 Series being declared to be a Classic car. I was a member durng the time I owned a pair of 1941 Buick Limited 90 Series cars. Somebody has told me that the 1940 Buick Limited 80 Series is now considered a full Classic by the CCCA, although I do not know that for sure.
Recently, after a 21-year quest, I acquired a 1941 Buick 71-C Roadmaster phaeton. I was told at Hershey that it is not considered a full Classic by the CCCA, which did not surprise me. However, I can make a really good case for why it should be, considering it was well advanced over the 1941 Cadillac 62 phaeton which is considered a Full Classic. The Buick had very advance engineering ideas with the two two-barrel carburetors which were actually the forerunner of the modern 4-barrel carburetor. They incorporated an early version of ram air induction and positive crankcase ventilation. The 320 cid straight 8 engine achieved 165 horspower, which is 15 more than the Cadillac too. This car has the same body as a 1941 Cadillac 62 phaeton as well.
It would seem to me that with these characteristics and the low production number of only 312 units, this car could be considered to "measure up" to other cars already determined to be Full Classic cars. Certainly at the auctions they appear to knock down some Classic car prices.
So, back to the original question. If I wanted to join CCCA and wanted to request some technical committee to give this series of Buick consideration, who would I contact? Thanks for reading/listening. Earl Beauchamp, Jr.
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1939 Buick 41C phaeton with skirts
1939 Buick 46C conv coupe with skirts
1941 Buick 71C phaeton with skirts
1971 Buick Riviera
1981 Buick Riviera |
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| Re: Who Do You Make a Case to? I did a Buick/Cadillac comparison test two weeks ago, and I will most certainly agree with you in that the Buick outclassed the Cadillac, except in styling, where I would give it a coin toss.
I'm not sure who is in charge of the nominating committee. It was Bob Joynt, but he resigned recently. I think it may be David Schultz. I'll see if I can find out for you.
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| Re: Who Do You Make a Case to? Earl
David Schultz is, indeed, the chairman of the classification committee, but you first need to contact CCCA HQ and obtain an application for Classic status.
847-390-0443
E-mail: classiccarclub@aol.com
1645 Des Plaines River Road, Suite 7
Des Plaines IL 60018
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| Re: Who Do You Make a Case to? Thanks West. You always come through, no matter what the question is. We sure landed a winner when AACA got you as our Editor. However, West, beauty is in the eye of the beholder as my dear old Mother used to say, and they don't call me the "Buickman" for nothing.  Best regards, Earl Beauchamp
__________________ 1939 Buick 41 sidemounted sedan with leather interior
1939 Buick 41C phaeton with skirts
1939 Buick 46C conv coupe with skirts
1941 Buick 71C phaeton with skirts
1971 Buick Riviera
1981 Buick Riviera
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| Re: Who Do You Make a Case to? I meant that the styling of both cars is very good, perhaps giving a plus to the Buick in terms of the 1941 Grille.
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| Re: Who Do You Make a Case to? West, so far nobody has responded to my email to that address. Maybe it's too soon. EDB
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1939 Buick 41C phaeton with skirts
1939 Buick 46C conv coupe with skirts
1941 Buick 71C phaeton with skirts
1971 Buick Riviera
1981 Buick Riviera |
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| Re: Who Do You Make a Case to? They will probably send you an application in the mail, if you gave them your mailing address.
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| Re: Who Do You Make a Case to? West,
Mr. Schultz did send me an email, and told me I could find an application on the Web.
I'm not sure this is a good time to pursue the idea.
Earl
__________________ 1939 Buick 41 sidemounted sedan with leather interior
1939 Buick 41C phaeton with skirts
1939 Buick 46C conv coupe with skirts
1941 Buick 71C phaeton with skirts
1971 Buick Riviera
1981 Buick Riviera |
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| Re: Who Do You Make a Case to? Given what just happened with the Town & Country, and the dust still hasn't all settled on that yet, you might be better off waiting a couple years. |
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| Re: Who Do You Make a Case to? Some other guy had a response here the last time I looked. I guess he must have withdrawn it? Doesn't matter. I haven't changed my mind. I'm just going to "let the sleeping dog lie", as my dear old Mother used to say.
__________________ 1939 Buick 41 sidemounted sedan with leather interior
1939 Buick 41C phaeton with skirts
1939 Buick 46C conv coupe with skirts
1941 Buick 71C phaeton with skirts
1971 Buick Riviera
1981 Buick Riviera |
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