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September 28th, 2009
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#11 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Dayton Ohio
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| Re: A question about date codes and casting/part numbers It seems like the hotrodders are more accepting of the people with stock vehicles then restorers are to those with modified vehicles,from what I have seen one can take a stocker to a show with modifieds and no trouble. My 65 country squire is the most stock of all the vehicles as its just lowered with wheels and everything else is the way it left the factory but the rest of the fleet have different motors. |
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September 28th, 2009
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#12 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: South Central Pa.
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| Re: A question about date codes and casting/part numbers Yep, that's us. We are not very accepting at all of modified vehicles, just like the Metropolitan Museum of Art is not accepting of paint by numbers and stamp collectors are not accepting of those who collect movie posters. Do what you want with your cars, you have that right, but if you want to play in our sandbox you have to follow our rules. Don't know how we can make it any simpler for you. We have invited you to Hershey, come and enjoy, who knows, you might become enthralled with restoration to original and one day we might see one of your cars on the show field.
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September 28th, 2009
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#13 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: St. Albans, W. Va.
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| Re: A question about date codes and casting/part numbers It's like any other style of showing, be it horses, dogs, billy goats or ferrets. If someone wants to participate they must have what is being shown. You can't win at a dog show with a Percheron draft horse.
The AACA is for vehicles as they came from the factory, certified racecars, commercial vehicles, fire trucks, HPOF, DPC, etc. . If what someone has does not fit into the classes we have then they have to find a show that does have a class for them. They can't expect us to change what we are about so that they can show their vehicle at our shows.
I think people with street rods, modifieds, etc. are more accepting of original vehicles because those, unless they build a kit car, are where they started. Even if it was just a chassis and they went from there. Our vehicles did not start as street rods etc. And we hate to see wonderful, good condition original vehicles chopped up into a street rod or modified. Especially if it is poorly done.
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September 28th, 2009
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#14 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Dayton Ohio
Posts: 291
| Re: A question about date codes and casting/part numbers If most of the pre 50s vehicles were able to cruise at highway speeds I would not be modifying them,I dont own a trailer so I have to drive them so them must be able to cruise at least at 65 and I dont want to get run over,I do like taking the back roads but I dont want to have to take them if you get my drift. I know they were built for a different time when no one was in a hurry and the roads were not as good but if most manufactures would of put overdrives in them I would leave them alone,I thought of putting a different set of gears in my 37 but I put in a T-5,modern rear end and upgraded the brakes cheaper then what the parts would of cost to redo the stock rear end. |
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September 28th, 2009
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#15 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Dayton Ohio
Posts: 291
| Re: A question about date codes and casting/part numbers I am working on a truck for towing purposes and thinking about buying a trailer so maybe one day I might leave one alone if I can transport it if I want to go to a show far away,I am planning on attending Hershey next year and maybe you guys might rub off on me so we will see what happens. |
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September 28th, 2009
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#16 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Eastern Virginia
Posts: 129
| Re: A question about date codes and casting/part numbers Quote:
Originally Posted by junkyardjeff It seems like the hotrodders are more accepting of the people with stock vehicles then restorers are to those with modified vehicles,from what I have seen one can take a stocker to a show with modifieds and no trouble. My 65 country squire is the most stock of all the vehicles as its just lowered with wheels and everything else is the way it left the factory but the rest of the fleet have different motors. |
Maybe it's no trouble parking your factory stock car next to them, but I've certainly never seen them express much interest in where I obtained my correct hose clamps, how I managed to get my 48 year old cruise control to work, or what color my power steering bracket should be. And I don't recall any "stockers" winning in "participants choice" shows, when there are a number of chromed muscle cars entered - not enough chrome on the inner fenders, I guess, and no appreciation for the research necessary to identify and locate that elusive part.
It makes me shudder when I see the resto-mod Mustangs out there. Is my '66 Fastback the only one left without a roll cage and 427??? I can see the rodders sharpening their knives as they look at it.
There are enough diverse events to satisfy any number of preferences. Some people like NASCAR, some like INDY. Some like country, some like classical. Some like paper, some like plastic. None has to be right for everyone. Just don't go to a baseball game and then gripe when they don't kick any field goals. Enjoy each game for it's own set of rules. AACA is what it is for a reason.
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September 28th, 2009
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#17 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Dayton Ohio
Posts: 291
| Re: A question about date codes and casting/part numbers What I dislike about some shows are brand new cars winning the awards,with stock and modified vehicles the owners have taken a vehicle that was not in good shape and brought it back to life and then someone takes a new car in that did nothing but wax it and win a award for just buying a new car. I would have a interest in where you got your correct hose clamps since my modified 37 chevy p/u has the correct radiator hoses and clamps and other correct parts even though it has had some modifications. Quote:
Originally Posted by quadfins Maybe it's no trouble parking your factory stock car next to them, but I've certainly never seen them express much interest in where I obtained my correct hose clamps, how I managed to get my 48 year old cruise control to work, or what color my power steering bracket should be. And I don't recall any "stockers" winning in "participants choice" shows, when there are a number of chromed muscle cars entered - not enough chrome on the inner fenders, I guess, and no appreciation for the research necessary to identify and locate that elusive part.
It makes me shudder when I see the resto-mod Mustangs out there. Is my '66 Fastback the only one left without a roll cage and 427??? I can see the rodders sharpening their knives as they look at it.
There are enough diverse events to satisfy any number of preferences. Some people like NASCAR, some like INDY. Some like country, some like classical. Some like paper, some like plastic. None has to be right for everyone. Just don't go to a baseball game and then gripe when they don't kick any field goals. Enjoy each game for it's own set of rules. AACA is what it is for a reason. | |
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September 28th, 2009
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#18 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Eastern Virginia
Posts: 129
| Re: A question about date codes and casting/part numbers And I agree with you about new cars at shows. I call them "Store Bought". Might as well stroll through the dealer lot.
I realize that rodders are proud of their work, and many of them are very well executed. I'd rather see one rodded than crushed, but not one that could be restored. To me it is a slap at the time period and history that a given car represents. Of course, I am a historian, so I admit to being biased...
To each his own, apples and oranges, etc, etc, etc.....
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September 28th, 2009
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#19 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Dayton Ohio
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| Re: A question about date codes and casting/part numbers I like original vehicles but since they are not designed for the way I would like I kind of make them do it,I dont do anything that cant be reversed so if anyone after me wants to put them back original they can. I dont like the cut up POS ratrods and leave my stock bodied and mainly with just driveline and suspension modifications for higher speeds and a better ride,you guys will like this that I have decided to put a more original motor back in my 55 Ford. I lowered it but its a little too low so it will come back up some and I am going to keep the disc brakes and modern rear end but I am going to put a 292 in it with a little newer trans and to the untrained eye will look original but it will be a trans I can get serviced anywhere if the need would arrive. I appriciate it that some like to keep them original but its just not my thing right now and as I get older I might change,I need the late model motor I put in the 55 for my 65 galaxie so that gives me a excuse to find a Y block. |
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September 29th, 2009
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#20 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: St. Albans, W. Va.
Posts: 4,565
| Re: A question about date codes and casting/part numbers Quote:
Originally Posted by quadfins .....There are enough diverse events to satisfy any number of preferences. Some people like NASCAR, some like INDY. Some like country, some like classical. Some like paper, some like plastic. None has to be right for everyone. Just don't go to a baseball game and then gripe when they don't kick any field goals. Enjoy each game for it's own set of rules. AACA is what it is for a reason. | I love the line I highlighted in red. Good one.
__________________ Susan W. Linden
AACA National - C.T.C.
Kanawha Valley Region - AACA, Sec.
Secret Santa Foundation, Inc.
Telecom/Telephone Pioneers
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I'm so busy.......I'm not sure if I found a rope or lost my horse.
Remember...pillage first, THEN burn.
Madness takes its toll. Please have exact change.
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