Problems with Lax Judging

[Bob Stein]

I recently judged a show where the chassis judge correctly identified radial tires as a major deduction for two of the cars. Although the team captain admitted that the cars never came with radials, he said that 'they were around' in the year the car was made and said not to make the deductions. The chassis judge chose not to argue the point any further, and the deductions were not taken. Since I was not the chassis judge, I decided that it was not my place to argue the point.

While I am all for making the hobby fun and do not want to nit-pick anyone, this was very unfair to those in the class who had gone to the trouble and expense to put correct tires on their vehicles. It was also a disservice to the owners who would then go to the expense of taking the car to the next level show and lose when the deductions ARE taken. If the Team Captains are not going to uphold AACA standards, then what good is the whole system?

[Shop Rat]

I agree. We should not nit-pick but taking the correct deductions for valid issues should be done to be fair to all.

[West Peterson]

Testing this logic: Development of radial tires actually started around 1915, and the Michelin X debuted as optional equipment on at least three different makes in 1949. So, according to your lead judge, radials on 1949 and newer cars are okay.

[R W Burgess]

........So, according to your lead judge, radials on 1949 and newer cars are okay.

"as it would come from a dealer".....??????

[West Peterson]

Not by Bob's lead judge's viewpoint.

[Shop Rat]

"as it would come from a dealer".....??????

Umm, technically.... it would be "as it could have come from the factory" rather than how a dealer might have sent it out the door .

[Restorer32]

Even more technically it is "as it could have come from the factory with the addition of any factory authorized but dealer installed accessories", assuming that there might have been authorized accessories that were only installed by the dealer and never by the factory.

[R W Burgess]

I like the way I can get you guys to come to the correct conclusion!!!

Wayne

[Shop Rat]

Even more technically it is "as it could have come from the factory with the addition of any factory authorized but dealer installed accessories", assuming that there might have been authorized accessories that were only installed by the dealer and never by the factory.

Good addition to what I said.

And Wayne, we KNOW you are testing us to see if we are paying attention.

[Steve Moskowitz]

Bob, this issue has been addressed with the person involved by the appropriate official. The system works.

[Bob Stein]

As Steve noted, this issue was addressed and handled in a thorough and professional manner. AACA's Judging System is the best out there, and it's obvious the club is working to keep making it better.