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    58' estate wagon

    1958-buick caballero-estate-wagon

    Not mine, but looks like some good parts
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    Re: 58' estate wagon

    Please tell me - is this seller crazy? I think $3700 ought to buy a Caballero that runs and drives pretty well, with glass in the windows and tires that hold air. Sure, there may have been a Cabo or two that's attracted six figures at the fantasy auctions. Out here in the real world though, a parts car or even a complete wagon needing everything shouldn't top $1000. Or, am I the crazy one, living in the past?

    This is more than idle speculation. I have a deal cooking and want to go in with my eyes wide open.
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    I look at it this way. It's worth $3,700 in a heartbeat for the person who already has and wants to restore a rusty but complete estate wagon. Instead of restoring the rusty car, it would be worth it to just transfer all parts over to this one.
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    Re: 58' estate wagon

    I, for one, agree with West. Whether one pays $500.00 0r $3700.00 is basically immaterial. The difference will hardly be noticed in the total when finished. Looks to be a GOOD start.

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    Re: 58' estate wagon

    Don't forget, the ad also says, OR BEST OFFER.......

    It looks like a great find for someone that is in need of such.

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    Re: 58' estate wagon

    If the car was complete, with all parts present, but not running, it might be worth $3700. But from what I see, it is far, far from complete, missing some very expensive and critical parts, like a windshield, the grille, etc. The list of missing parts would fill several lines.
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    Re: 58' estate wagon

    As far as US, SETTING PRICE, it's only going to take just ONE buyer, so we will see, just what that is, won't we?

    Dale in Indy

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    I guess... It does look pretty solid, from way back where the photographer was standing. And it seems to hail from bone dry Arizona. I drove through there recently - incredible landscapes.

    NADA says $13250 Low Retail to $47700 High Retail, plus 5% if it's got A/C. Surprisingly, they peg a '57 way cheaper, by $3000 to $20000 across the range. It appears that one pays for chrome by the square yard.

    NADA defines Low Retail as: This vehicle would be in mechanically functional condition, needing only minor reconditioning. The exterior paint, trim, and interior would show normal wear, needing only minor reconditioning. May also be a deteriorated restoration or a very poor amateur restoration. Most usable "as-is". Note: This value does not represent a "parts car".

    Of course, High Retail is what we tell wifey it'll be someday, if she would just let it follow us home. The car in Arizona is a looong way - like $13225 away - from "mechanically functional". All of its required reconditioning will be decidedly Major.

    DALE, you're absolutely right, though. Outside of the auction ring, it always comes down to one seller and one buyer agreeing on an exchange of dollars for car. WES, you're also right - weeks of torch work on the one hand and 3 grand and a trip to AZ on the other - easy choice.



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    Re: 58' estate wagon

    It's not the price of the parts car that's the deal killer these days, it's the cost of the gas to go retrieve. I use not hesitate buying a car from out west and taking a fun road trip out to haul it home, but now the gas typically costs more than the car.
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    Re: 58' estate wagon

    I always figure the purchase price is "the entry fee". From there on out things are pretty fixed.

    I am curious about offering a car "or best offer". Maybe a forum reader has used this method of sale.
    Do you collect all the offers and sell it to the actual highest one?
    How long do you collect offers?
    Do you notify people who made offers which were not high enough?
    Have you ever sold a car for less than the asking price but before a second offer comes in?
    I see the term a lot and literally it could be very complicated.
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    I have used MAKE AN OFFER several times in buying. As I understand the process, the interested party inserts his OFFER, the computer sends a E to the SELLER with the OFFER amount. The seller then makes a decision YES or NO, and they the BUYER received an E stating which it is. The SELLER has 72 hours to respond to your OFFER. I believe it is handled ONE OFFER AT A TIME.

    Works well, my OFFERS have been answeed in less than 24 hours. I have done it 6-8 times, and only one TURNED DOWN.

    I trust I have been of help.

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    Dale, That's the Ebay way to Make an Offer. I am speculating about the sign on the window with XXX$ or Best Offer.
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    Ok, I understand, I would bet that anyone with a sign or ad stating, OBO just listens to the OFFER, and says YES or NO. Sure he/she may tell you NO, and then at a later date call you and say YES. I have had that happen to me, I made an OFFER, was told, NO, I NEED MORE, then a few days later he called and said,IF YOU ARE STILL INTERESTED, YES I WILL TAKE THAT FOR IT.

    I don't see such as a complicated process at all. I bet almost all set the asking price at more than they will take. That's just common sense, IMO. Sure some say, FIRM, and some are FIRM, but I would bet 75% will bargain. Cars by nature are bargaining items.

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    Re: 58' estate wagon

    Has anyone seen this car in person? I had some photos sent to me but hard to see everything. Any info would be appreciated.

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